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» mffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 856 posts, RR: 0Reply 1, posted Sun Nov 25 2012 11:33:00 your local time (1 day 3 hours 29 minutes ago) and read 796 times: I like the 2nd pic with the movie theater barricades. Tickets please! And the last pic is very Top Gun... Why are there 2 guys pointing?? What if one them points the other direction? 我很喜歡第二張照片，有電影院圍欄的那張，我也要買(mǎi)票去看！最后一張照片非常像Top Gun，但是為什么這倆人要用手指？？如果他們指的是另外一個(gè)方向咋辦？_RIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 746 posts, RR: 0Reply 2, posted Sun Nov 25 2012 11:57:29 your local time (1 day 3 hours 5 minutes ago) and read 785 times: I'm confused by the markings on the aircraft. Never seen anything like that before. Don't the Chinese use a red star in the middle with two red bars on each side, or is this a Navy version?我被飛機(jī)的涂裝迷惑了，從來(lái)沒(méi)見(jiàn)過(guò)這樣的。中國(guó)空軍不是用的是一個(gè)紅星加兩條杠的標(biāo)志么？難道這是海軍的版本？_BladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 383 posts, RR: 0Reply 3, posted Sun Nov 25 2012 13:21:12 your local time (1 day 1 hour 41 minutes ago) and read 739 times: Quoting RIXrat (Reply 2):I'm confused by the markings on the aircraft. Never seen anything like that before. Don't the Chinese use a red star in the middle with two red bars on each side, or is this a Navy version?Those are test markings, usually for cameras so they know what to aim at.(回復(fù)上一個(gè)人)這些是測(cè)試用的標(biāo)志，主要是用來(lái)給相機(jī)作為對(duì)焦點(diǎn)使用的。(原來(lái)如此？)_RIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 746 posts, RR: 0Reply 4, posted Sun Nov 25 2012 16:41:39 your local time (22 hours 21 minutes 15 secs ago) and read 658 times: BladeLWS -- thanks for clearing that up. I was really scratching my head on that one.(回復(fù)上一個(gè))非常感謝你的澄清，我真的被這個(gè)迷惑到了。_rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 5464 posts, RR: 26Reply 5, posted Sun Nov 25 2012 21:18:05 your local time (17 hours 44 minutes 49 secs ago) and read 540 times: I realize that is a test bird - but that is the ugliest color I've ever seen on an aircraft.我知道這是一架試驗(yàn)機(jī)，不過(guò)這真是有史以來(lái)最丑的涂裝了。_alberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2586 posts, RR: 0Reply 6, posted Mon Nov 26 2012 00:32:10 your local time (14 hours 30 minutes 44 secs ago) and read 449 times: This is what the aircraft will look like when in service:BTW Am I the only one shocked at how fast the development of their carrier program is moving along ? To think that India has spent far more money and in the end only getting a used refurbished carrier...這是這個(gè)飛機(jī)正常的涂裝(附圖)順便說(shuō)一句，難道只有我一個(gè)人被中國(guó)航母計(jì)劃的進(jìn)展震撼到了么？想想印度，花了這么多錢(qián)，最后只得到了一艘二手翻新航母。_rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 5464 posts, RR: 26Reply 7, posted Mon Nov 26 2012 01:13:57 your local time (13 hours 48 minutes 57 secs ago) and read 426 times: Quoting alberchico (Reply 6):Am I the only one shocked at how fast the development of their carrier program is moving along ?Well, the program is almost 40 years along its development track.Also remember that China has acquired three other aircraft carriers - to study even though some eventually were converted for other roles. They have also spend a lot of money buying and studying aircraft designs from other nations.This carrier and program are a continuation of the development work done by the Soviets. The basic hull and design are the Soviet carrier Varyag - refurbished, completed and updated.We will see their first locally 'designed' carrier no sooner than 2015.What we are seeing now is the implementation of decades of work. And they are not at the end of the program.(回復(fù)上一個(gè))好吧，中國(guó)的項(xiàng)目其實(shí)已經(jīng)進(jìn)行了快40年了。同時(shí)你也得記住中國(guó)已經(jīng)買(mǎi)了3艘航母了，盡管很多最后被用在其他地方了，不過(guò)中國(guó)人還是做了研究的。他們同時(shí)也花了很多錢(qián)購(gòu)買(mǎi)并且研究其他國(guó)家的艦載機(jī)。這個(gè)航母計(jì)劃其實(shí)是蘇聯(lián)的延續(xù)，船體和設(shè)計(jì)都是延續(xù)蘇聯(lián)的瓦良格號(hào)。我們要在2015年以后才能看到國(guó)媽。我們現(xiàn)在看到的是幾十年工作的成果，并且不是最后一個(gè)成果...Quoting alberchico (Reply 6):To think that India has spent far more money and in the end only getting a used refurbished carrier...While we know some of the numbers about the India program, we don't know the numbers about the China program.I would believe that China has thrown more money at the problem than India.But China's system would make the total amount of money to be used more efficiently in my opinion.(回復(fù)上一個(gè))我們只知道印度人花了很多錢(qián)在航母上，但我們不知道中國(guó)人花了多少，我認(rèn)為中國(guó)花的可比印度多了。并且我認(rèn)為中國(guó)的制度比印度的在花錢(qián)上更有效率。_Acheron From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1367 posts, RR: 2Reply 8, posted Mon Nov 26 2012 08:40:08 your local time (6 hours 22 minutes 46 secs ago) and read 221 times: Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 7):This carrier and program are a continuation of the development work done by the Soviets.Considering how the Chinese seem to be aiming at copying the american style CVBG's and the fact that the Soviets used a completely different doctrine and employment for their "carriers", that seems unlikely.The only thing this thing has in common with the soviets after all the modifications the chinese did to it, its the basic hull design and nothing else.(回復(fù)上一個(gè))PS:看來(lái)也有美國(guó)軍迷對(duì)中國(guó)的軍事發(fā)展和體系很關(guān)心啊_Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 9386 posts, RR: 18Reply 9, posted Mon Nov 26 2012 11:39:26 your local time (3 hours 23 minutes 28 secs ago) and read 97 times: Quoting Acheron (Reply 8):The only thing this thing has in common with the soviets after all the modifications the chinese did to it, its the basic hull design and nothing else.Well that, and both are in various target identification databases maintained by the USAF and USN.(回復(fù)上一個(gè))好吧，不過(guò)他們都已經(jīng)進(jìn)入美國(guó)空軍和美國(guó)海軍的目標(biāo)數(shù)據(jù)庫(kù)了...(汗)=================================不過(guò)發(fā)言是來(lái)自軍事論壇 ，知識(shí)層面和國(guó)家實(shí)力決定了群眾心態(tài)改動(dòng)發(fā)言是來(lái)自專(zhuān)業(yè)的軍事論壇？？？ Post by 音箱 (2012-11-27 02:52) Post by 音箱 (2012-11-27 02:52)改動(dòng) Post by 不挖坑不舒服斯基 (2012-11-27 02:54) Post by 不挖坑不舒服斯基 (2012-11-27 02:54) Post by tommysharp (2012-11-27 02:57)沒(méi)看法 感覺(jué)這船很小 有些LHD比這船大 能裝的飛機(jī)太少 機(jī)身太像tomcat 有航母是好事 但是這船象征性大于實(shí)用性 人們很high我也理解 唯一關(guān)心的是船員內(nèi)部設(shè)施怎么樣 如果還不行企業(yè)號(hào)真的就完暴了 完了改動(dòng)從無(wú)到有這步已經(jīng)跨過(guò)去了，該開(kāi)始思考如何從弱到強(qiáng)了這美國(guó)網(wǎng)友英語(yǔ)水平還不如WOW論壇的英語(yǔ)水平。日本肯定也有暗窺天朝 理性分析天朝實(shí)力的人 不要被死宅們迷惑了 沒(méi)看法 感覺(jué)這船很小 有些LHD比這船大 能裝的飛機(jī)太少 機(jī)身太像tomcat 有航母是好事 但是這船象征性大于實(shí)用性 人們很high我也理解 唯一關(guān)心的是船員內(nèi)部設(shè)施怎么樣 如果還不行企業(yè)號(hào)真的就完暴了 完了 沒(méi)看法 感覺(jué)這船很小 有些LHD比這船大 能裝的飛機(jī)太少 機(jī)身太像tomcat 有航母是好事 但是這船象征性大于實(shí)用性 人們很high我也理解 唯一關(guān)心的是船員內(nèi)部設(shè)施怎么樣 如果還不行企業(yè)號(hào)真的就....... 全沒(méi)參過(guò)軍 甚至連航母都沒(méi)走過(guò)的 civilian 國(guó)內(nèi)的軍迷比他們知道的都多 沒(méi)看法 感覺(jué)這船很小 有些LHD比這船大 能裝的飛機(jī)太少 機(jī)身太像tomcat 有航母是好事 但是這船象征性大于實(shí)用性 人們很high我也理解 唯一關(guān)心的是船員內(nèi)部設(shè)施怎么樣 如果還不行企業(yè)號(hào)真的就完暴了 完了 這美國(guó)網(wǎng)友英語(yǔ)水平還不如WOW論壇的英語(yǔ)水平。 沒(méi)看法 感覺(jué)這船很小 有些LHD比這船大 能裝的飛機(jī)太少 機(jī)身太像tomcat 有航母是好事 但是這船象征性大于實(shí)用性 人們很high我也理解 唯一關(guān)心的是船員內(nèi)部設(shè)施怎么樣 如果還不行企業(yè)號(hào)真的就.......